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Recording of Conversation with Matt Bennett on It Needs to Be Said

Host Susan Wagner sat down with Matt Bennett on Oct 10, 2025 to talk about the need for new thinking.

We know things aren’t working. We know we need to do things differently. Whether we call it fresh thinking or new ideas, It Needs to be Said today’s crisis demands serious change.

Host Susan Wagner spoke with Matt Bennett on the importance of new ideas in running campaigns. Matt is the founder of Third Way that promotes innovative thinking to shift the national debate and help win elections.

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